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The sender claims to be a former Editor in Chief of the Advocate so we are very honored to have him praise our efforts. WARNING the following contains language of a graphic nature: children and those easily offended should NOT view the following.


From: Corey Von Pride <[email protected]>
Subject: Full of shit
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999

Whoever the fuck you are you're a full of shit coward with too much time on your hands. I ran that paper for a fucking year and received a myriad of awards state and nationwide. Half of those people you slam are my former staff. You couldn't carry their fucking jock strap BITCH. CCC is an imperfect institution, but I'll tell you this: The Advocate has helped many a people better themselves. I know a single mother of two who's working with the Associated Press now because of that program. I know an African American woman who's interning at the Arizona Daily Republic because of that program. A good friend of mine was able to support herself after her parents died because of that program. Also, the only fucking reason I'm in school and not trying to rob your ass at gunpoint is because of that program. Look bitch, whoever you are, I take umbridge with the shit you wrote on this site. You're a jealous cunt with nothing better to do. Who the fuck are you? And what the fuck have you ever done? You couldn't out write The Advocate's worst writer if you tried. Your dumb fucking ass doesn't even know the difference between its and it is.

Corey Vaughn Pride 1997-1998 Editor in Chief of The Advocate and proud of it... BIIIIITTTTCCCH


This is a note from the communications director of the Jouralism Assocation of Community Colleges detailing why a link were REMOVED from a list of on-line college papers

From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JACC Online paper list
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:29:27 EDT

You got me on that before, you won't again. Your paper will NOT be listed. It is not an official college publication and membership in JACC is by college.

Our response: Excuse me sir I am not understanding you. We are community college students as well as mass communications majors although our publication is an alternative one it is student run and its staff are all mass com students. We are not trying to put anything over on anyone we wish to present an alternative voice to the students of our school and our community. You say that we are not an official college publication this is not a weakness in fact it is at the core of our strength. We are independent of controls from administrators and instructors, we receive no finical backing from the school and are there for in a unique position to cover our school�s community in a fair and impartial manner. Our college pays to be a member of the JACC, we attend JACC conferences all we ask is to be afforded the same privileges every other publication receives. With this in mind we respectfully request to be included in the on-line paper list on the JACC webpage.

-Bill.

From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: JACC Online paper list
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:13:54 EDT

For now we are listing only official college publications, though I take your point on how poorly some of them are kept. If you wish to appeal my decision to list only official publications you may do so by appealing at the next meeting of the JACC Executive Board, which will be held in San Franciso in August. Last April you submitted your URL with the signature of "Online Editor," implying that you were associated with the official college publication, which I find very misleading. Neither of your requests suggests that you are an alternative paper. I mistakingly added your paper to the list the first time without checking it out because I thought you were part of the official publication.

Our response: To say "attend the meeting if you have a grievance" is not always a feasible way to resolve an issue. We are community college students. We have jobs, families as well as school which makes it difficult to travel up and down the state to attend these meetings. We are still at a loss as to why our publication cannot be listed. To let just one person decide what is "appropriate" is not very democratic. It doesn't cost anymore to list our URL then to not, and server space is not an issue in any case. It does however prevent JACC members from experiencing the work of their fellow JACC members and puts you in the position of curtailing free flow of ideas and expression. Why not give JACC members-and anyone else that views the JACC site- the right to decided for themselves if they would like to visit our site? We are not asking for much, only to allow other students to see what can be done when you put your mind to it--with or with out instructional assistance or faculty participation. We see much broader consequences for failing to include one publication in the list solely because it lacks so-called "official status." Using arbitrary designations such as "official" only limits freedom of expression. What is "official"? Is a publication only official if it receives funding from a governing body? Is the New York Times an "unofficial publication"? What about the Wall Street Journal? If the only true meaning of official publication is one that is controlled by school administrators, then we have to throw all the ethics and standards which comprise journalism as we know it, out the window and stop fooling ourselves. We become nothing more than PR rags. Many on campus see the school newspaper as exactly that, a public relations tool used to promote the school in it's best light. As we see it the more finical support a school gives to a publication the more editorial control or influence it may possess over that same publication. We have seen first hand how funding situations have clouded even some faculty advisors minds. While many tout freedom of press issues they don't want to piss people off. The phrase "don't bite the hand that feeds you," has come up on more than a few occasions while working on our school's "official" publication. There is a general fear that in angering the wrong administrator in print, the whole journalism program could vanish on the spot. This notion was perpetuated and even reinforced by instructors who say they've seen it happen to other programs. It is with all of this in mind, we feel strongly that the role of the alternative press must be examined.


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